tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734283773701136760.post6063833007427349057..comments2024-03-26T20:11:01.933-04:00Comments on NOT BLOG X: X-MEN Episode Thirty-One - September 7, 1994G. Kendallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12279461069684403792noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734283773701136760.post-61994887998366903822013-10-16T15:56:05.383-04:002013-10-16T15:56:05.383-04:00@Teenbore: I love that he has a straight-up superh...@Teenbore: <i>I love that he has a straight-up superhero costume ready to go despite being introduced as nothing more than Moira's boyfriend.</i><br /><br />Hear, hear! Not every first appearance has to be an origin. I think the only character who didn't magically debut in costume was Colossus. He only appeared in two episodes, but it was the same jeans and tank top look both times. Which maybe came from his civilian identity as Peter Nicholas, of all things, if we turn to the comics for inspiration. I don't know why, but it suddenly strikes me as a very odd choice indeed.<br /><br />I guess that's a "welcome to 1993 moment," when Gambit and Jubilee are more iconically associated with the X-Men than Colossus, Nightcrawler, Kitty, etc.cyke68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16863809928504935104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734283773701136760.post-30533126236472933392013-10-16T12:20:55.948-04:002013-10-16T12:20:55.948-04:00I have to acknowledge that this is the one time th...<i>I have to acknowledge that this is the one time the cartoon’s changes are obviously an improvement. </i><br /><br />Ditto. This is a great (and rare) example of an adaptation improving on the source material by looking at what works and what is necessary, and jettisoning the rest (ditto also the Phoenix Force explanation which is essentially the same as it is in the comic, only much, much simpler and straight-forward). <br /><br />Banshee certainly isn't the first or only character on the cartoon to which this applies, but I love that he has a straight-up superhero costume ready to go despite being introduced as nothing more than Moira's boyfriend. It's like mutants in the animated universe are just given a costume when their powers manifest, just in case. :) <br /><br />@Matt: <i>I hadn't yet learned terms like "accessibility", "ratings", and "we don't need to make any more episodes after we hit 65 for syndication".</i><br /><br />Ha! Austin Gortonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14281239771248780430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734283773701136760.post-6823489555560661012013-10-10T03:36:39.923-04:002013-10-10T03:36:39.923-04:00@Matt
This was my favorite episode of the "Ph...<b>@Matt<br />This was my favorite episode of the "Phoenix Saga" as well. Partly because Banshee is one of my favorite X-Men. Wasn't a big fan of his cartoon voice, though.</b><br /><br />I had read that Jeremy Ratchford, the voice actor for Banshee, also portrayed a live action Banshee in the Generation X TV movie. Looking it up now, there seems to be some confusion about this. I'm pretty sure I read it in Wizard back in the day, so it's got to be true, right?<br /><br />And a Generation X live action movie. Before an X-Men film, before anything. Seems absolutely crazy today.<br /><br />Anyway, back on topic. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734283773701136760.post-63155539938922200182013-10-09T15:29:18.245-04:002013-10-09T15:29:18.245-04:00A season-long series of subplots showing D'Ken...A season-long series of subplots showing D'Ken scheming, Lilandra's plight, Xavier's freakouts, and Eric the Red as the culprit behind various otherwise unrelated conflicts could have worked. It sort of necessitates splitting the Phoenix and Dark Phoenix halves into two seasons though. Or I guess you could bookend them... a season finale cliffhanger on Jean's sacrifice, then her "resurrection" as Phoenix in the next season opener, and the "death" of Phoenix as the finale. It's structurally sound, but still spreads all this Phoenix business across two seasons. In my perfect world, without all those silly considerations you mentioned and a finite series order, it is so.<br /><br />Even condensing as many issues as they did, Phoenix still consumed *nine* episodes of the third season once all was said and done. (Ten if you count the lost "No Mutant Is An Island.") As compromises go, this was pretty agreeable.<br /><br />To G's point about simplifying the Phoenix mythology, it seems like TAS was a good entry point for new readers regardless of what they were encountering in the comics. I was familiar with Jean's history back then, though never having read most of it. It never occurred to me that someone OTHER than Jean (possessed by the Phoenix), was participating in those original stories. And when she blew herself up on the moon, well, so what. It was just the Phoenix part of her that got "killed" and she was back to being normal Jean. (I knew she was PRESUMED dead, but had no concept for how long in real or comic book time.) Even in reading summaries of these events, that's how I connected everything in my head. The mechanics didn't really matter. It wasn't until I got my hands on X-Factor #1 that I realized, "What--the--fuck--?!" So, it's probably for the best that I was unduly influenced by the cartoon first.cyke68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16863809928504935104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734283773701136760.post-83433475632426660442013-10-09T14:58:47.736-04:002013-10-09T14:58:47.736-04:00This was my favorite episode of the "Phoenix ...This was my favorite episode of the "Phoenix Saga" as well. Partly because Banshee is one of my favorite X-Men. Wasn't a big fan of his cartoon voice, though.<br /><br />Your points about the story's structure are interesting, because as Cyke says, I can't help wondering how the story would have played if it had more faithfully adapted the comics, lasting for a full serialized season, with Phoenix as a background element -- a la Beast's imprisonment in season 1 and Xavier and Magneto's Savage Land expedition in season 2 -- before coming to the fore in the finale for "Dark Phoenix".<br /><br />Of course they still would've had to compress it quite a bit to fit forty or so issues into thirteen episodes. But then, I was also the weird kid who wondered why the series didn't adapt the entire comic book run, starting from the beginning with the original five, on a one issue to one episode basis, for a total of three hundred plus episodes.<br /><br />(I hadn't yet learned terms like "accessibility", "ratings", and "we don't need to make any more episodes after we hit 65 for syndication".)Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580725636327122073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2734283773701136760.post-86732972411529961292013-10-09T13:21:46.267-04:002013-10-09T13:21:46.267-04:00One can't help but wonder what the Phoenix Sag...One can't help but wonder what the Phoenix Saga could have been by serving as a reintroduction to the Sentinels, Magneto, etc. but the producers really made the only call they could have in jettisoning all those little episodic threads. You are absolutely right that Claremont and Cockrum were diligently churning out monthly (well, bi-monthly) issues of a comic series, and one barely keeping its head above water at that. There was a tenuous strand connecting the individual plots, yes, but everything preceding the real meat of the space opera stuff was a bombastic, wild goose chase meant to keep the readers' attention. That's a lot easier to accomplish in a daily-televised miniseries marketed as a special event with a clear mission statement. And, of course, no fear of cancellation. It's how the story logically would have been constructed in print, had the writer been able to take a long-term approach rather than plotting issue-to-issue.<br /><br />Well, maybe any writer other than Claremont. Not that there's anything wrong with that.<br /><br />Where the last episode was the, "Ummm, guys?" moment of this adaptation's faithfulness to the source material, this one is definitely more like it. Maintains the suspense of the previous chapter's killer cliffhanger and serves as an effective bridge to the setting to for the final act. I was eating up all of this as a kid and couldn't believe the show was reaching new heights now three years in.<br /><br />I still can't make up my mind whether this episode is enhanced or forever tainted by being the basis for "The Juggernaut Bitch!!!" parody some years back.cyke68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16863809928504935104noreply@blogger.com